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Post by El Maxo on Nov 15, 2007 23:28:11 GMT -5
OOC: Why, exactly? What are their motives to protect the Hellik?
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Post by bverd759 on Nov 15, 2007 23:47:11 GMT -5
OOC: Well, the Felsworn (unlike in previous friendly wars (im not following my race's Friendly wars past)) don't like seeing a nation be completely disarmed, AND THEN being abused even though they are powerless.
A quick explanation of things that people dont seem to understand because they dont actually read nation pages when it is necessary *cough sam cough*. The title emperor is based upon tradition, not upon power. He is not a dictator, more of a president with a better title.
Also, the Felsworn think that since their presense in this war was minimal, that they would have no reason to abuse the Hellik. Bringing them to a state of complete powerlessness and then pretendling like they have no control over them even when its sandwiched in between 2 nations and constantly watched, is reason to be overly protective. To the Felsworn it sounds like they just want to abuse them.
Being the relatively realist nation they are, understand that all they have to do is melt down the fleet and let them start a nation. This nation under constant watch and inspection to prevent the possiblity of making a new military seems like enough for the Felsworn to prevent any possible war like intentions that may be existent.
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Post by El Maxo on Nov 15, 2007 23:50:56 GMT -5
OOC: Abuse them? Like, how? How are we going to abuse them?
It sounds to me that you're just standing up for your own nation so it it can make a comeback later.
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Post by kaso on Nov 16, 2007 0:11:03 GMT -5
OOC: Brian, Sam does read nation pages (unless you mean me, cause I personally never read your nation). In character, he says things which are not true because his news networks are horrible unreliable and are the televising equivalent of a liberal rag news paper.
Also if your Emperor isn't elected, than he is not like a president, even if his position is symbolic. I say symbolic because I think that is what you meant when you said "based on tradition".
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Post by bverd759 on Nov 16, 2007 0:21:21 GMT -5
OOC: not talking about hsi news networks. lol
He is elected...
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Post by kaso on Nov 16, 2007 0:24:41 GMT -5
OOC: His news network is an example of his role playing; i.e. representing what his government and populace would do/think.
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Post by bverd759 on Nov 16, 2007 0:41:10 GMT -5
OOC: once again, i will state it again, i dont care about his news network. OOC: His news network is an example of his role playing; i.e. representing what his government and populace would do/think. Who are you talking to? because i never said anything about his news network...so what are you trying to say? OOC: No more ex-post facto "we where totally on the way" posts! It only serves to make this more convoluted. In fact I suggest no more of these unreasonable ex-post facto posts in general. I'll suggest it to King. Yes i do know i fucked up, so that fact doesn't actually exist. I know i cant just say i showed up. |
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Post by kaso on Nov 16, 2007 0:50:40 GMT -5
OOC: I think I'm done with ever trying to explain anything to Brian ever again.
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Post by bverd759 on Nov 16, 2007 0:52:42 GMT -5
I understand though, its just im a bit confused why you bring up the SNN.
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Post by Kinghy on Nov 16, 2007 13:52:28 GMT -5
Samoeria
The following is the final (REPEAT: FINAL) draft of the Hellik Surrender Agreement. The Hellik will either accept this agreement or prepare for immediate conflict. The Felsworn will kindly shut the fuck up, being as they are not at all involved.
The Hellik Surrender Agreement
1. The Hellik Dictation Fleet's current form of government will be disbanded, to be replaced by a constitution drafted under the watch of (and approved by) representatives from The Neo-New Terran Conglomerate and The Peoples’ Democratic Republic of the Republican Democracy of Peoples’ Samoeria.
2. The Hellik Dictation Fleet's entire fleet will be melted down and made into homes and civic buildings, under the watch of (and approved by) representatives from The Neo-New Terran Conglomerate and The Peoples’ Democratic Republic of the Republican Democracy of Peoples’ Samoeria on their new home solar system, Persephone Tri-Beta (located conveniently equidistant from Samoeria, Terra and Felswornia)
3. The Hellik Dictation Fleet and any later governments will never again build a military vessel. This provision is to be enforced by The Neo-New Terran Conglomerate and The Peoples’ Democratic Republic of the Republican Democracy of Peoples’ Samoeria.
4. All Hellik citizens must remain within Persephone Tri-Beta, however Hellik citizens may renounce their citizenship and after that may do as they please within Intergalactic Law.
4a. No non-citizens may enter Persephone Tri-Beta except with express permission from The Neo-New Terran Conglomerate or The Peoples’ Democratic Republic of the Republican Democracy of Peoples’ Samoeria.
5. The Hellik and all later governments will be watched at all times by The Neo-New Terran Conglomerate or The Peoples’ Democratic Republic of the Republican Democracy of Peoples’ Samoeria.
6. "Grand Marshal" Aleksander Johnkal will be tried on and punished by The Peoples’ Democratic Republic of the Republican Democracy of Peoples’ Samoeria.
OOC: In Summary, the Hellik will melt down their entire fleet and make it into homes and civic buildings in a system between Terra, Samoeria and Felswornia. They will draft and constitution, and Samoeria and Terra get to decide whether said constitution will be allowed. They will never make any war ships again, and they will be watched at all times. Last but not least, all citizens of their nation must remain within their system unless they renounce their citizenship, at which point they may not ever return to their system. Oh, also, Samoeria gets to rehabilitate Aleksander.
IC: We hate to be so harsh, but you must understand our concern. The Hellik had the potential to do great harm to the Universe, and that could easily still come to pass if they are not neutralized immediately.
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Post by bverd759 on Nov 16, 2007 19:53:24 GMT -5
Second in Command guy...:
As far as we're concerned, that meets all of our criteria. We accept these terms without any problems. Though the harshness seems like a bit much for our new plans as a nation, we are understanding of the concerns.
OOC: Capital Planet of the Felsworn Nation: Hytrent'zical (nice try =P)
Felsworn Allegiance:
Our nation agrees as well, though there was some stiff disagreements in the council, it was outnumbered in the end. Either way though, the Hellik accepted the agreement.
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Post by kaso on Nov 19, 2007 22:02:44 GMT -5
"4. All Hellik citizens must remain within Persephone Tri-Beta, however Hellik citizens may renounce their citizenship and after that may do as they please within Intergalactic Law.
4a. No non-citizens may enter Persephone Tri-Beta except with express permission from The Neo-New Terran Conglomerate or The Peoples’ Democratic Republic of the Republican Democracy of Peoples’ Samoeria."
Consul Skippio: Seems a bit unreasonable to us.
Consul Tiberius: If one sought to trade with the Hellik, would they need to acquire approval from the Samorians and Terrans? What would be necessary for a merchant vessel of a TPN (third party nation) to enter?
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Post by bverd759 on Nov 21, 2007 2:26:18 GMT -5
Second In Command:
Thats a good question...
Felsworn Allegiance:
*plays video playback: "The Felsworn will kindly shut the fuck up, being as they are not at all involved."*
If I recall, since we had nothing to do with this, that does not mean you actually have to take anything we have previously agreed to say in diplomatic meeting seriously. Our ideas were more suggestive then backed up by force like your nations. So by any means, demean us for no reason, go ahead and sour relations to the full extent that you wish to bring this horrid language to our ears.
The council would like to thank you for taking our concern into consideration and placed them in a zone in between the 3 nations.
OOC: I don't think a Samoerian ambassador would actually say that with such hostility. The Felsworn have yet to say anything in character that warrants such dispicable speaking in diplomatic channel.
"The following is the final (REPEAT: FINAL) draft of the Hellik Surrender Agreement."
Does the game pain you to type about? Because the extent of your overall angry attitude at me is starting to discourage even talking about the game anymore.
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Post by El Maxo on Nov 26, 2007 2:56:26 GMT -5
OOC: I believe that your persistence pushed Sameoria's buttons.
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